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Arun Jee's avatar

Dear friend, Joel Kaplan must have been one of your best bosses. But how does that prove that he has been the best with everyone. Your 'one of the best bosses' was not supposed to behave the way he did with Sarah? Let us not go in the details of all that.

Do you not think that Facebook's policies in China, Myanmar or the way Instagram misused the photos of the teenagers to target its advertisers are wrong.

A few minor inaccuracies, even if they are in the book, can't be used to discredit the critical issues to which the author has brought the attention of the readers the world over. And also however Meta and its people may try to deflect, the murky deeds of these 'Careless People' have been exposed. These deflections will make the book more popular in the days to come.

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I'm still to read the book Katie and all, but am already getting a bit of PTSD from reading about Facebook + Davos briefing books. Most of my interactions with Sheryl Sandberg -- both as a presidential and VP adviser at the EU, and as a Politico journalist -- happened in Davos.

Looking back, I think I forced myself to be more circumspect in my reactions to those meetings and interactions than I should have been. I just found the behavior did not match the moments, and those moment were themselves far from genocides or election interference.

I've had plenty of friends who work at FB/Meta and plenty of positive professional relationships with individuals and teams there. But I think those true and nice feelings can coexist with other concerns.

The first time I met anyone from FB leadership was in 2013 in Davos when I met with Sheryl and Marne Levine (with my boss, EU VP Neelie Kroes).

I came into it wary because a few months earlier my boss had invited Sheryl to sign up to a joint statement with the title "Women Need Tech and Tech needs Women," encouraging more women to get involved in the tech sector for International Women's Day. It was, frankly, a deliberately anondyne statement, but still one worth making. Yet Sheryl expressly called to make sure her name was nowhere near the statement (Marissa Meyer signed on in, like, two seconds). Her claim was that with Facebook's impending IPO she wasn't allowed to make public statements (she had just been a co-chair of WEF in Davos the previous month, so it wasn't like she was living in the shadows).

So in this first meeting in 2013, I remember thinking it was rude that Sheryl was mostly spaced out / looking over our shoulders for more important people to lock eyes with. No Lean In vibes at this meeting ... until she zeroed in on something Neelie said about kids at risk on the internet, and mounted an argument that we want our children and grandchildren to have play dates, and that since life is moving online, we should also want kids to have digital play dates. And Neelie pointed out that maybe we don't want six year olds on digital play dates, and therefore not on Facebook. But Sheryl was dead serious that it would be OK to have young kids online in this way. And we walked away thinking: that can't be right, she doesn't really want that.

Ho-hum, I thought. Until the next Davos, when Sheryl sent Marne Levine in her place to the launch of something called the EU Digital Skills and Jobs Coalition. This coalition was about emphasising the ways digital companies create jobs, instead of merely replacing people with software. It was an event hosted by the President of the European Commission, and to which other companies sent presidents and CEOs, with serious pledges about digital training. Levine read out the most bizarre 2-min script about how many people had searched for jobs on Facebook the previous year, and that that in essence was Facebook's contribution to digital jobs. Samsung had pledged to train 1 million Europeans in essential digital skills, and Microsoft pledged 13,000 internships in Europe, to give some contrasting examples.

Fast forward to when I'm writing Politico's Davos Playbook newsletter, and Facebook now has a massive Davos pavilion and I was invited to meet Sheryl. This is Jan 2018 and it's amusing because the day before we meet Facebook announces essentially the same digital skills initiative they refused to sign onto in 2014 (https://www.politico.eu/newsletter/davos-playbook/politico-davos-playbook-trumps-town-meet-davos-woman-mercron-european-love-story-back-on/)

So I turn up for the meeting and Tony Blair is sitting there in the room when I arrive. And then the top editor at Reuters turns up. And then a bunch of other FB staff turn up. And then it's clear it's nothing like a 1-to-1, it's basically a roundtable with Sheryl. Who eventually turns up wearing a Madonna mic, and announces she has to use it because she has so many meetings this week (as if we don't all have endless meetings that week). Then she proceeds with a sob story about how harsh people are being to Facebook over the 2016 U.S. election (the Cambridge Analytica scandal still hadn't broken at this point), and how Facebook doesn't even make any money from political ads (she probably meant it was a small amount, not literally none). And even though she's managed to engineer a situation where even Tony Blair is now part of an unpaid focus group convened under false pretences, person for person we all tell her than FB being in the political ads business is bad for democracy and bad for their reputation: so why not just get out of it? She holds the line that it's a freedom of speech issue. Afterwards she came up to me with a worried look, and asked "do you REALLY think we should be out of political ads" as if I was a lone or radical voice putting this idea forward. I just wondered what bubble she lived in.

Then finally in 2019, she was on some kind of apology tour (I forget what scandal had recently broken) that culminated in Davos, and despite my better instincts, I thought I had to go where the story was and turned up to another Facebook reception. The strangest thing was how many people like me turned up for the free champagne. Our price is lower than we think it is!

Sheryl eventually comes in with her own "Garry" next to her whispering into her ear who this person or that person is as she mills about the crowd. I was never TV famous or anything like that, but I'd been meeting Sheryl for six years at this point. If I emailed, I got a response (I am guessing from a team of assistants rather than SS herself, but the responses were suitably clear and concise so it was hard to tell). The point is: I was a person she should have recognized for better or worse if she bumped into me. No recognition apparent.

I can't say I know what any of this means individually, but literally none of it adds up collectively to being equal to the power and influence this company and these individuals exercised over our world. We can all say we were more optimistic about Silicon Valley back in the day, and that life and power is never exercised perfectly. True.

But really my point is that with great power comes great responsibility. It's not easy, and it's not supposed to be. And you don't get credit because you took on a hard job that made you a billionaire and you found it was, in fact, really f*ing hard. You get credit for being responsible, for learning from mistakes and slowing down, and breaking as few things as possible. Which is not really the way careless people operate, and not the track record - overall - of Facebook.

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