To work at Facebook is to experience a completely different reality from the narrative on the outside. Love the word "flattening" here — when you're faced with the decisions inside, you see how much depth and dimensionality there is on all of this stuff. Thousands of people inside the company are working to make it better all the time, but on the outside it's portrayed as mindless drones doing Zuck's bidding. Thanks for writing!
"It involves my former boss, Joel Kaplan. I worked closely with Joel, and he was one of the best bosses I ever had—full stop. He backed me up in tough moments and played a major role in my growth at Facebook. I never experienced the sort of behavior that Sarah describes."
Here's the passage that I took issue with on my previous comments. You conveniently left this out of your revision here.
I work with women who are abused by men in positions of power. Many of those women are in tech and the gaming industry.
Joel sat behind Brett Kavanaugh at his confirmation hearing and hosted a party for him. You know, birds of a feather and all that.
Sarah, the author of Careless People, was harassed by her boss. These accusations are more often than not considered unfounded, because the entire system is set up to protect abusers.
Your original post perpetuates that system. Again, my life's work is helping people through trauma. People like you are the reason why women don't come forward.
You've got your minions attacking my physical appearance and every comment, which proves my point. You never experienced any treatment like that from Joel? Well, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. There's enough smoke around Joel to know that there's fire. Sarah lost her career (and likely her stock options) because she stood up for herself.
Here's where I could stoop to the level of this Kimberly alt account of yours, but I'll just stop there.
Thank you for the authenticity! Life is full of dualities and your newsletter made that point perfectly. I appreciate your perspective and share many of your same thoughts coming from working in tech startups. So cheers to more "...yes, and's" in the world.
This. It wasn’t fair to use your comment as the call out and not address what your comment was calling her out about. You weren’t calling her out because she was telling her story. You called her out on the inference that since she didn’t experience the harassing behavior of Joel, then that must be another untruth of the book. Which is harmful. And the fact that she skipped past that callout and made it about her speaking out is disappointing.
Do you notice how everyone else is engaging constructively, and you're in here spewing (quite frankly, rather boorish and uncreative) vitriol?
Methinks it's time to channel all that energy into a hobby. I've heard good things about woodworking. Ceramics. Embroidery. Raising chickens or quail. Reading a book. Pickling and fermenting veggies. Gardening. Birdwatching. Origami.
Here's Katie masquerading as someone else again. As a career, I work with women who are abused by men in positions of authority. My entire comment on the original post directly referenced the fawning over Joel, the office abuser. This second crybaby post conveniently leaves that out.
Why don't you look at my profile pic and make fun of my looks again, like you did on my previous comments, and show everyone what you really are?
To anyone reading this, go back and look at the original comments, if you want the whole story, and not Katie's conveniently incomplete narrative.
This is a beautiful post, Katie! Thanks for your willingness to engage, to be fair-minded, and to make arguments that resonate.
To work at Facebook is to experience a completely different reality from the narrative on the outside. Love the word "flattening" here — when you're faced with the decisions inside, you see how much depth and dimensionality there is on all of this stuff. Thousands of people inside the company are working to make it better all the time, but on the outside it's portrayed as mindless drones doing Zuck's bidding. Thanks for writing!
"It involves my former boss, Joel Kaplan. I worked closely with Joel, and he was one of the best bosses I ever had—full stop. He backed me up in tough moments and played a major role in my growth at Facebook. I never experienced the sort of behavior that Sarah describes."
Here's the passage that I took issue with on my previous comments. You conveniently left this out of your revision here.
I work with women who are abused by men in positions of power. Many of those women are in tech and the gaming industry.
Joel sat behind Brett Kavanaugh at his confirmation hearing and hosted a party for him. You know, birds of a feather and all that.
Sarah, the author of Careless People, was harassed by her boss. These accusations are more often than not considered unfounded, because the entire system is set up to protect abusers.
Your original post perpetuates that system. Again, my life's work is helping people through trauma. People like you are the reason why women don't come forward.
You've got your minions attacking my physical appearance and every comment, which proves my point. You never experienced any treatment like that from Joel? Well, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. There's enough smoke around Joel to know that there's fire. Sarah lost her career (and likely her stock options) because she stood up for herself.
Here's where I could stoop to the level of this Kimberly alt account of yours, but I'll just stop there.
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Thank you for the authenticity! Life is full of dualities and your newsletter made that point perfectly. I appreciate your perspective and share many of your same thoughts coming from working in tech startups. So cheers to more "...yes, and's" in the world.
You defended someone who sexually harassed his subordinates. Full stop. That, and apparently you really like to hear yourself talk.
This. It wasn’t fair to use your comment as the call out and not address what your comment was calling her out about. You weren’t calling her out because she was telling her story. You called her out on the inference that since she didn’t experience the harassing behavior of Joel, then that must be another untruth of the book. Which is harmful. And the fact that she skipped past that callout and made it about her speaking out is disappointing.
Oh! Maybe your alt account can come at me and make fun of my looks again! That would be fun, you feminist icon, you.
Do you notice how everyone else is engaging constructively, and you're in here spewing (quite frankly, rather boorish and uncreative) vitriol?
Methinks it's time to channel all that energy into a hobby. I've heard good things about woodworking. Ceramics. Embroidery. Raising chickens or quail. Reading a book. Pickling and fermenting veggies. Gardening. Birdwatching. Origami.
Hit me up if you want more ideas.
Here's Katie masquerading as someone else again. As a career, I work with women who are abused by men in positions of authority. My entire comment on the original post directly referenced the fawning over Joel, the office abuser. This second crybaby post conveniently leaves that out.
Why don't you look at my profile pic and make fun of my looks again, like you did on my previous comments, and show everyone what you really are?
To anyone reading this, go back and look at the original comments, if you want the whole story, and not Katie's conveniently incomplete narrative.