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Yoel Roth on hard tradeoffs, speaking publicly and the future of trust and safety
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Yoel Roth on hard tradeoffs, speaking publicly and the future of trust and safety

The former head of trust and safety at Twitter looks back on some of the toughest decisions he had to make and why he keeps speaking publicly despite harassment from Trump and Musk
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Turns out I’m in the minority for last week’s fun tradeoff - 72% of you said you would choose the beach over going to the lake.

This week’s question is, would you order pancakes or waffles?

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This week, I’m joined by two fabulous guests - Josh Lawson and Yoel Roth.

Josh was a colleague of mine at Facebook and is now doing work with the Aspen Institute on AI, elections, and trust. He’s my guest host this week, and we open the show looking at the Supreme Court deciding to take up the Texas and Florida content moderation bills, how people should judge if platforms are doing enough on elections, and his work as Aspen.

I then chatted with Yoel Roth - the former head of trust and safety at Twitter. Yoel has faced terrible harassment from former President Trump and Elon Musk, including this week when Musk said Roth and Kara Swisher - who interviewed Yoel last week at Code - are “the purest form of evil.”

We talk about why he continues to speak out in the face of this type of harassment, how trust and safety people can protect themselves, some of the toughest decisions he made at the company, and how we can restore trust in the content moderation process.

Here are some of the pieces we mention:

Yoel’s Pieces

Kate Klonick: The New Governors: The People, Rules, and Processes Governing Online Speech

Resources for protecting yourself online

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Anchor Change with Katie Harbath
Impossible Tradeoffs with Katie Harbath
Technology and democracy are at a crossroads. Technology can potentially empower people and make our democracies more responsive. Or technology can be used to manipulate and divide us. Welcome to Impossible Tradeoffs. I’m Katie Harbath. In this weekly podcast, we’ll talk about and analyze the most fascinating headlines. We’ll make predictions about where things are going. And we’ll talk to experts about the challenges we face and how we might look for solutions.
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